[Tutorial] The Independant Java Tutorial

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:22 pm

Sorry CoBB for being inspired by the name of your Z80 tutorial, but I couldn't resist. Basically, this is what I am doing for my Senior project for the next two weeks. I know its ugly, but oh well. I'll fix it later. Updates all this week and next week... maybe even throughout the summer. Anyways... Suggestions, comments, people to attempt to test this tutorial would be nice... It's next year's programming class's lessons...

Later on this week, I will make sure all links work, and that code can be downloaded, as well as class files for these programs

The Independent Java Tutorial (IJT)

Thanks!!

CoBB · Post by **CoBB** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:34 pm

The colour scheme is unbearable and illegible. You must use a neutral colour for the background--something bright with minimal saturation. Sorry, that's the first thing that struck me.

Two things. C is closer to platform independence in the real world, because Java has serious compatibility issues between its different versions where even recompilation doesn't necesssarily help. It's an important point. Second, even if you use an IDE, you should talk about command line issues (javac, classpath and the like), because these things will most likely sting someone who doesn't know about them.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:39 pm

CoBB wrote:The colour scheme is unbearable and illegible. You must use a neutral colour for the background--something bright with minimal saturation. Sorry, that's the first thing that struck me.

Two things. C is closer to platform independence in the real world, because Java has serious compatibility issues between its different versions where even recompilation doesn't necesssarily help. It's an important point. Second, even if you use an IDE, you should talk about command line issues (javac, classpath and the like), because these things will most likely sting someone who doesn't know about them.

OK, thanks... don't worry bout the colors, they are getting changed... anyways... I'll use some other language to demonstate what I mean, and I plan to teach about the command line stuff... but that's for later....

thanks for your input!

Post by **benryves** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:40 pm

I can't read it! I had to copy the text into notepad first

EDIT: Oh, mindpiss CoBB. Mindpiss.

CoBB · Post by **CoBB** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:42 pm

It would have been a click just as for me, had you been using my favourite browser.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:43 pm

changed! How's that look? Better, I hope...

Post by **benryves** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:43 pm

CoBB wrote:It would have been a click just as for me, had you been using my favourite browser.

It looks fine in Lynx too.

EDIT: Now it looks fine.

Not that I know anything about compiling Java in snazzy IDEs...

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:46 pm

and that's why I've added a link to clc.htm... which I will use to explain command line compiling in... Thanks! Anything else?

CoBB · Post by **CoBB** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:47 pm

Patori wrote:changed! How's that look? Better, I hope...

A lot! Now you could increase the font size too.

ryves ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Âºr wrote:It looks fine in Lynx too.

I'm a w3m person, but whatever.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:49 pm

CoBB wrote:
Patori wrote:changed! How's that look? Better, I hope...
A lot! Now you could increase the font size too.

ryves ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Âºr wrote:It looks fine in Lynx too.
I'm a w3m person, but whatever.

How's that?

CoBB · Post by **CoBB** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:50 pm

The links are unaffected, but it's much better still.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:51 pm

check again.

CoBB · Post by **CoBB** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:55 pm

Okay, the only cosmetic change that would still do some good is using truecolor pictures and the wonderful png format. Dithering just doesn't cut it. Other than that, call again when you have (significantly) more content to comment on.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:56 pm

working on it... I don't know about the png... yet... Expect CLC tutorial to be done in hour...

Post by **tr1p1ea** » Mon 09 May, 2005 6:59 pm

Hey this might come in handy Patori

. Although i dont really like java ... and i have actually done a sun microsystems entry level java course, i did not pay attention thus i dont know anything about java (i still passed the exam though

).

Great work!

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