Send a message to the future!

Post by **L4E_WakaMol-King** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 12:35 am

Someone sent me this link, and I thought it was interesting. Basically you get to send in a message, and it will be stored on a staelite that will be launched into space and return to earth after 50,000 years.

http://www.keo.org/uk/pages/message.php

Personally, I'm going to get ahold of a GPS and tell them my exact geolocation and time and ask that, if they have invented time travel, that they send me back something

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KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 12:51 am

What are the odds that the protocols for text will be the same in 50,000 years? That anyone will speak english? That computers will still be using the same exact structure (bits, bytes)? That we will be using the same structures (base 10)? That ASCII is still used? That humanity will even still exist? That the satellite won't be horribly marred and damaged by dust, micro-asteriods, etc? That the data will still be intact? That we will have the equipment to be able to read CD-ROMS? That we will have the equipment to read the equipment to read the CD-ROMS? That anybody will notice one satellite in the trillions out there? That anybody will care? That we will even still be on earth? That earth won't have been destroyed?

Or, to put it another way, if 50,000 years ago (48,000bc) all the caveman were to write some records of there lives, would we be able to read them and understand them?

As a personal thought excersise, it's excellent. In reality, it's so far-fetched it's not even worth it.

Post by **L4E_WakaMol-King** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 1:13 am

You're probably right... however, this was designed by rocket scientists (literally), so I have a feeling they have taken all of those things into account. The people (if there are even people at all) may not be able to read the data on this satelite... but if no one writes anything on it, then they certainly won't be able to read it.

It might not make it back, and even if it does, it might not be noticed or read. But it's also free and only takes a few minutes to do. What do you have to lose? It's like a 1 cent lottery ticket... not much chance to win, but if you do, then people 50,000 years in the future will read about you. If you lose, you're out a few minutes of time... so what?

crzyrbl · Post by **crzyrbl** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 1:37 am

yet another scam to get my email address...

KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 1:47 am

I have a feeling they have taken all of those things into account

Noone can take everything into account.

It might not make it back, and even if it does, it might not be noticed or read. But it's also free and only takes a few minutes to do. What do you have to lose? It's like a 1 cent lottery ticket... not much chance to win, but if you do, then people 50,000 years in the future will read about you. If you lose, you're out a few minutes of time... so what?

Exactly. I did it because I thought it was a nice chance to actually spark my brain, AND it forced me to think- something not many things do now adays.

Post by **L4E_WakaMol-King** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 1:57 am

crzyrbl wrote:yet another scam to get my email address...

I thought that too when I first saw it, so I googled 'Keo Scam' and 'Keo Satellite Scam' and didn't find anything on the first few pages. But I did find stuff about the project on CNN, Wikipedia, and Answers.com... so if its a scam, it's a pretty good one.

dysfunction · Post by **dysfunction** » Sat 29 Apr, 2006 8:17 pm

No, it's not a scam... and keep in mind that we don't understand languages from 50,000 years ago simply because the records are spotty, if they exist at all. However, now most languages are standardized, and immortalized thanks to global communication and records storage. The chances that people will use the same storage methods and speak the same languages in 50,000 years is small; the chance their scientists will be able to access our storage methods and decipher our languages is large.

Post by **Patori** » Mon 01 May, 2006 5:03 pm

damn dys: you beat me to it

CompWiz · Post by **CompWiz** » Thu 04 May, 2006 6:05 pm

L4E_WakaMol-King wrote:Personally, I'm going to get ahold of a GPS and tell them my exact geolocation and time and ask that, if they have invented time travel, that they send me back something .

Actually, time travel will (theoretically) only be able to transport something back at the maximum to the time the time travel device was created. Also, If it is possible to send something back in time before that, then you have to take into account the multiple universes theory. If you go back in time, you actually also go into another parallel universe. You cannot affect your own past in any way that you would remember it. You could only affect the past of the you in another universe.

Post by **tr1p1ea** » Thu 04 May, 2006 6:17 pm

Actually 40,000 year old cave paintings do exist and have been interpereted.

Also, i never really accepted the multiple universe theory as being viable. If it were possible to make another decision at one stage in history, then you would have done it.

KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Thu 04 May, 2006 8:19 pm

Actually, time travel will (theoretically) only be able to transport something back at the maximum to the time the time travel device was created. Also, If it is possible to send something back in time before that, then you have to take into account the multiple universes theory. If you go back in time, you actually also go into another parallel universe. You cannot affect your own past in any way that you would remember it. You could only affect the past of the you in another universe.

Actually, time travel (theoretically) happens all the time at the sub-atomic level. Entire particles go into loops where they constantly return to the exact time they left, leaving again and returning again.

Post by **L4E_WakaMol-King** » Thu 04 May, 2006 11:22 pm

Well, none of us are quantum physicists... and we're talking 50,000 years in the future. We've only been seriously studying the idea of time travel for, what, 100 years at best? Assuming there's not some sort of nuclear winter, I think it's nieve of us to say what science will and will not be able to do 50,000 years down the line.

KevinJB · Post by **KevinJB** » Fri 05 May, 2006 1:52 am

Well, none of us are quantum physicists... and we're talking 50,000 years in the future. We've only been seriously studying the idea of time travel for, what, 100 years at best? Assuming there's not some sort of nuclear winter, I think it's nieve of us to say what science will and will not be able to do 50,000 years down the line.

Agreed 100%, which is sort of what I was getting at in my post.

Fr0stbyte124 · Post by **Fr0stbyte124** » Fri 05 May, 2006 3:23 am

The Kardaschev scale predicts we would be a Class III civilization by AD 7800, colonizing galaxies.

Also, free-reign time travel is possible with faster than light ships. Time has some strict rules, just like the speed of light does, but they only apply within our universe. If it becomes possible to jump out of our universe into another one and back again, or at least get outside of ours, all sorts of things become possible.

threefingeredguy · Post by **threefingeredguy** » Fri 05 May, 2006 3:24 am

We can't go the speed of light, we would become infinitely heavy.

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