I need some help

phatmastermatt · Post by **phatmastermatt** » Mon 17 Oct, 2005 9:11 pm

Alright, I'm new, and yes I read the newbie faq. What my question is..is this. I have a ti-84+ silver edition, and I'm not sure if I got a cable with it or not, but I already have usb cables that fit, and I can do simple things like take screen captures with TI's software, but nothing seems to work when I try to put any programs in, the file format isn't supported by the restore program, or I just can't get it to work once it's on the calculator. I downloaded the Ion OS cause I wanted to play Tetris Attack (a wonderful game might I add) but I couldn't unarchive it (which apparently is what makes it work)...it just kept giving me some sort of syntax error. I know for a fact that a lot of things work considering I got games from other people at school, but for some reason I seem limited by TI's software or the USB cable I'm using. I've tried using the TiLP program, but it doesn't seem to work, I changed the driver and everything that seemed logical to do but it couldn't connect to the calculator. Anyway, if you guys could tell me whether or not a generic USB cable works or not that'd be much appreciated.

lecks · Post by **lecks** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 12:29 am

well i have the same calc and i suggest you dump ion and get mirage os, ( http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fi ... 13949.html ) it can play all ion games and it's better and u can even archive it cause its an app so that way if ur calc freezes up and u lose memory, then it won't be gone cause it's archived. also, you have to make sure that the files u send are .8xp, 8xk, just check for an x in the file type. 83p is for the regular 83, and those wont work on ur 83/84 cause the calcs arent made the same. also if u bought it with the box like i did your calc came with a usb calc-computer cable, usb calc-calc (links with 84s only) and a manual. it does not come with a link for 83s ( I/O link). also it came with ti connect. some people prefer ti-graph link, some prefer ti connect. they both work fine with a ti 84, but u have to download graphlink from education.ti.com well i hope that helps.

also remember to read the readme files for the games that you download. they tell u how to install the game (all games install the same way), and tell u things u need to know to play the game.

also all asm games (assembly) need a shell to run (like mirage) and you can archive all assembly games unless the readme says different. also, what i did for my 84+s is that i deleted all the extra language files cause ill only be using english, and that gave me around 400-500kb archive memory free for games and other usefull stuff.

Spencer · Post by **Spencer** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 12:51 am

lecks wrote:u can even archive it

Mirage OS is an APP, so by definition, it is archived.
It's good enough for most games that will draw your interest.

lecks · Post by **lecks** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 12:58 am

spencer thats what i wrote... geez next time read C A R E F U L L Y...

phatmastermatt · Post by **phatmastermatt** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 1:01 am

Well, I have a .8xp file here and for some reason TI Connect won't let me use it to "restore" to my calculator.

lecks · Post by **lecks** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 1:01 am

ALRIGHT i give.. i was trying to help the guy out, not be all technically accurate.. but yeah, you're right, i did write that.

ok ok here's what u do. u get the file, and u make sure u have ti connect on ur desktop and then u drag the file to the ti connect icon and itll start ti-send to. if its an asm game u can send it to archive and play it after its done sending. u must be trying to send it to the calculator the wrong way.

for the future, you should right click any .8xp file and click "open with" and find ti-send to and click on that and click "always use this option" or something like that. now next time u download a game u can just simply double click it and itll start ti send to, and u can just click send from then. MAKE SURE UR CALC IS TURNED ON AND PLUGGED IN. IF U PLUG IT IN, WAIT 5-10 SECONDS. THERE'S A DELAY FOR IT TO REGISTER.

lloydkirk1989 · Post by **lloydkirk1989** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 2:01 am

If you want to be technicaly correct...

u can even archive it

Like spencer said, you can't archive something thats already archived.

also all asm games (assembly) need a shell to run

Have you heard of nostub? Thats built into the OS...

lecks · Post by **lecks** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 2:02 am

1: you can't unarchive apps (at least i can't. i just tested it right now)
2: ive never tried that. i dont even know what it is.

lloydkirk1989 · Post by **lloydkirk1989** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 2:07 am

Nostub programs are run on the calc with the Asm( command. Basicaly, instead of using an Ion or MOS header, programs are compiled with the standard TI-OS header.

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 2:08 am

lecks wrote:1: you can unarchive apps (at least i can. i just tested it right now)

Unless you hack your OS, I doubt that was an app you unarchived. Or perhaps this is a new feautre the ti foregot to tell us about the 84+.

NOstub are asm programs that the os runs by asm(. They are really limited in size and they lack write back so the are generally not prefered.

lecks · Post by **lecks** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 2:11 am

i never wrote that

threefingeredguy · Post by **threefingeredguy** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 3:08 pm

Jim, he wrote "CAN'T" not "can". But yes apps are very different from programs blah blah blah. They arent 8xp, so if you have Mirage.8xp you did something wrong.

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You don't restore files to your calc, you only restore TIConnect-made backups. Right click the Mirage application and click send to TI Device AFTER you've plugged in your calculator. It should work fine if you have installed TI Connect.

Spencer · Post by **Spencer** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 3:49 pm

threefingeredguy wrote:Jim, he wrote "CAN'T" not "can".

No, he's been editing, lol.

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 4:29 pm

Yes, let me just point this out to you lecks,

1: you can't unarchive apps (at least i can't. i just tested it right now)
2: ive never tried that. i dont even know what it is.
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necro · Post by **necro** » Tue 18 Oct, 2005 4:52 pm

you guys seem off topic...more than a little