When is there going to be a new Ti?

DJ_O · Post by **DJ_O** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 3:44 pm

Shadow Phoenix wrote:my reasons for ti-84+se : 1.5 mbs archive memory = I can have TONS of apps(and I do ), clock is not neccesary, USB cable is pretty cool because it transfers MUCH faster, and it is 2x the speed of ti83

and I could add the fact that the TI-83+SE have been discontinued so ppl who want a z80 calc with 1.5 MB of archive have no choice but choosing the 84+SE

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 4:00 pm

Sorry, but the 83+ SE is still better. All the power of the 84+ with out the lame case.

Clock, big deal. USB...meh.

And now the 83+SE is a collectors item!

But's those crazy crystal timers are my favorite part, they get you gameboy like sound and grey. HAIL THE TIMERS!!!

Kalimero · Post by **Kalimero** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 4:23 pm

tr1p1ea wrote:Yeah if they ever bring out a z80 calc with a memory mapped display ... it will instantly become the mother of all calcs! :).

Why do you think PatrickD loves the 85?

DJ_O · Post by **DJ_O** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 4:27 pm

because it's the mother of all z80 calcs, it has a memory mapped display and is the oldest z80 calc with a link port

Post by **tr1p1ea** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:07 pm

I forgot that the 85 and 86 have mem-mapped displays. But those calcs are still teh sux0rz because they are ugly and the os for them is stupid.

If the 84+ came out with a smiliar display as the 85/86 ... it would pwn!

DJ_O · Post by **DJ_O** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:10 pm

I would like a 84+ (maybe a TI-87+?) with memory mapped display me too. however I am wondering if for example durk and Jim e gpp would still be compatible with them since the LCD driver would be faster?

Post by **tr1p1ea** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:22 pm

No neither Ducks or Jim's grayscale packages would work if the display was memory mapped. But the thing is there would be no need for them in the first place as with memory mapped displays (as the name suggests) changing a bit in memory will change a pixel on the screen. Thus you could use the old switch buffer trick and it would work fine without any flicker.

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:32 pm

Trying to kick me out now are you tr1p.

Post by **tr1p1ea** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:37 pm

Yes.

Hahahaha no just kidding

. If i recall it was you who wished that the displays were memory mapped in the first place?

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DJ_O · Post by **DJ_O** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:49 pm

tr1p1ea wrote:No neither Ducks or Jim's grayscale packages would work if the display was memory mapped. But the thing is there would be no need for them in the first place as with memory mapped displays (as the name suggests) changing a bit in memory will change a pixel on the screen. Thus you could use the old switch buffer trick and it would work fine without any flicker.

yeah the 2 buffer trick told in the asm28d. Thanks for the info. I was just wondering because if TI would change the LCD driver ppl would have to update all their grayscale games (except if they are in BASIC)

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 5:57 pm

No, if they added memory mapping everything has to be ported. It's a major change. Well unless they mapp it to a specific ram page and keep the driver, but i don't know if any driver could do that.

DJ_O · Post by **DJ_O** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 6:00 pm

So in conclusion this would be a different calc? Hmm, well, I think they should make an upgrade to the 86 (with flash support). 96kb of ram with 480 KB of arc memory would be cool

Jim e · Post by **Jim e** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 6:06 pm

I would be happier with 256K ram and 3840K Archive(minus whatever is need for an OS).

BUt even then adding an archive means different calc.

Duck · Post by **Duck** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 6:08 pm

Well, it would suffice to let an interrupt swap buffer pointers (if the driver supports a pointer), and run this routine on the highest frequency possible. This wouldnt garble (smart blend) the pixels though like Jim's or my routine, but I wonder if you would need it with such a high freq. I heard those TI85/86's are quite flickerless.

mnc2fan · Post by **mnc2fan** » Wed 20 Apr, 2005 6:09 pm

That is the main reason I like the 84+se more mem. On mine I have desolate, wolf 3d, sim city, starcraft, gemini, alien breed. I still have over 1 mb of mem. I'm still a noob to calcs but I do know the 84+se is the same as the 83+se, just looks different.