MaxCoderz

for your 1 bit pleasure!

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Some visual ideas...
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 3:36 pm 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff

Joined: Thu 16 Dec, 2004 9:41 pm
Posts: 13
Location: Michigan (USA)
Okay, here are a few ideas that I generated based on what was talked about. First, is following more of the original game play style, where the display is overlaying the game. Heres the layout:

Energy Missles Current Beam

Energy = (Number is the current energy tanks remaining health, and each box is a full energy tank, wich (in this version) would simply disappear when empty)

Missles = (the Missle icon, which would be inverted with a box around it when currnetly in use, and the number of missles remaining)

Current Beam = (The current beam that is being used)

And how is looks visually:

Image

**NOTE: The gray is just to let you know that icon will be inversing slowly for better understanding of what beam you have selected!

Though this is the true look of Metroid, I feel that it would be unpracticle. Simply because it will end up taking up too much screen space verticlely... and there already isn't a whole lot of verticle space. So, lets try something different...

Layout for side bar thingy:

Energy| <- Right side of screen
...........|
...........|
Missles|
...........|
...........|
Beam1|
Beam2|

Energy = (Same as the last set up, only this will have space to display an empty or filled energy tank)

Missles = (Same as above, however, there will only be enough space to have 99 missles MAX)

Beam1/Beam2 = (Okay, this I'm throwing up in a whim, and could very well not happen... but it would be cool! Each beam will display what beam is currently being used. In the picture, Wave and Ice beams are being displayed. This MIXED beam will shoot an Ice beam through walls with the Wave pattern (a sine wave). Unlike normal Metroids, these beams won't build off from each other, but rather you can mix any two combinations of beams. Or, if you want just a normal beam, mix two of the same beams! Ex. Ice beam + Ice beam = Ice beam. Remember, this is just an IDEA! Don't make this fact yet! I need to discuss it with Joe yet!)

And the visual:

Image

**NOTE: The gray is just to let you know that icon will be inversing slowly for better understanding of what beam you have selected!

So, these are the general ideas. Personally, I like the second one... but your input is a bit more fluential than my own!

Oh, and FYI... I'm back! Just was waiting for something to actually DO!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 4:00 pm 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Dec, 2004 10:06 pm
Posts: 4095
Location: I cant seem to get out of this cryogenic chamber!
Hey, great to see you back in action Cyan :).

I dont really mind which method is used. Im sure you guys will come up with the right one :).

_________________
"My world is Black & White. But if I blink fast enough, I see it in Grayscale."
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 4:49 pm 
Offline
Regular Member

Joined: Mon 27 Dec, 2004 8:33 pm
Posts: 83
I'm going to agree with Cyan. The second one seems neater somehow.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 5:20 pm 
Offline
New Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri 17 Dec, 2004 10:16 pm
Posts: 49
I like the second one better! :)

_________________
Revolution Software - http://www.revsoft.org


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 10:27 pm 
Offline
Calc Wizard
User avatar

Joined: Fri 17 Dec, 2004 10:22 pm
Posts: 745
Location: Wandering around in the Jungle...
Like tr1p was said...I don't really care which one you use, in the end you guys will chose the right one! But if my voice was to be heard, you would hear it saying go for door #2...I like that one best!

offtopic: Welcome back Cyan! :)

_________________
The Revolution is here...


Last edited by Madskillz on Wed 29 Dec, 2004 4:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 10:35 pm 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff
User avatar

Joined: Wed 15 Dec, 2004 7:26 pm
Posts: 2735
Location: The Hague, Netherlands
hmmm... maybe it just me, but IMHO the symbols and stats are a 'little' to close to each other... I know you have to work with limited space, but that's the first thing I thought when seeing it... great job though :roll:

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec, 2004 11:27 pm 
Offline
Calc Wizard

Joined: Mon 20 Dec, 2004 4:00 am
Posts: 657
Location: My Computer/Someone else's computer
I think the second verticle bar works fine, but the choice is up to you :)

_________________
"Not long ago, the Black Gate of Armonk swung open. The lights went out, my skin crawled, and dogs began to howl. I asked my neighbor what it was and he said, 'Those are the nazgul. Once they were human, now they are IBM's lawyers.'"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec, 2004 2:04 am 
Nice work there, Cyan...as usual. I'm glad to see you've tried to visualize the top-bar look as well, though I'll agree that I don't think it's as workable as the sidebar. I really like how it looks in regards to being similar to the original games, but you're right--it just takes up too much space...and on top of that, it's not particularly visible.

So, yeah, the sidebar sounds like our best bet--Joe underlined the more practical advantages to it in the other thread, regarding performance increases over the other one. Besides that, it's more visible...if looking just a tad crowded. Unfortunately it might have to get moreso, since that sidebar looks to be 9 pixels wide, not 8, and I'm fairly sure it'd render best if it was only 8 across, like the rest of the "tiles" in the game. Unless you're able to draw a masked border at the edge of those tiles. But I don't know a great deal on that subject, so that's for Joe to figure out.

I also think your "combination" beam concept is cool, even if it came to you here just as a concept to fill up space. If that doesn't end up getting implemented, though, try this: why not shift everything down a tile (around 8 pixels) and stick in a two-tile minimap there? Like, minimini map. I say two because it'd take that many for it to actually be worthwhile...if you use 4x4 square bits to represent room blocks, you can fit 4 across and 2 down for a total of 8 square rooms, which is more than enough to navigate yourself with. It sounds like that'd be impossibly crowded, but I tried it out graphically, and it can work. The second tile of the minimap, of course, would have to extend past the sidebar, but I suppose it could be a seperately rendered region. Again, I dunno--just tossing out ideas. The addition of a constantly-available minimap, though, would help the feel and navigability of the game a good deal, I think, so toy around with that one if you get the chance. Other than that, I'm excited to see what you develop. Good luck!


Top
  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec, 2004 7:18 am 
Offline
Site Admin

Joined: Wed 15 Dec, 2004 5:58 am
Posts: 101
I went with HUD #2. The code has been written and the HUD is there :) Now I just need to implement health, ammo, other weapons, and all that crap - and then the HUD will be fully functional :)

Thanks for the quick supply of graphical material, cyan :)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec, 2004 7:48 am 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Dec, 2004 10:06 pm
Posts: 4095
Location: I cant seem to get out of this cryogenic chamber!
Excellent work Joe. This baby gets better and better every day :).

_________________
"My world is Black & White. But if I blink fast enough, I see it in Grayscale."
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec, 2004 4:13 pm 
Offline
New Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri 17 Dec, 2004 10:16 pm
Posts: 49
Nice work Joe! :) That got done fast!

_________________
Revolution Software - http://www.revsoft.org


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 4:01 am 
Well, gosh, that was quick! I'm delighted to see some new life being breathed into this project, though I know Joe's been working on it when he could all this time. Heck, I'm just happy to see any form of new screenshot. I hope the holidays means you're able to get a little more ground covered on this thing...it seems like you're so close, and getting closer all the time. I have no doubt this thing'll succeed. Just, you know, don't die on us, Joe. Not until the game's done, at least. :roll: Happy new year, everybody.


Top
  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec, 2004 4:40 am 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff
User avatar

Joined: Thu 16 Dec, 2004 10:06 pm
Posts: 4095
Location: I cant seem to get out of this cryogenic chamber!
" Just, you know, don't die on us, Joe. Not until the game's done, at least."

LOL that was funny! But seriously Joe, great work ... i cant wait to play this thing ;).

_________________
"My world is Black & White. But if I blink fast enough, I see it in Grayscale."
Image
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri 31 Dec, 2004 5:24 am 
Offline
Maxcoderz Staff

Joined: Thu 16 Dec, 2004 9:41 pm
Posts: 13
Location: Michigan (USA)
This WAS going to be the final release of the tiles... however... 300+ tiles is just too many and steals too much precious space. So, I'll need to revise a bit so Joe can make magic of these 8x8 micro wonders!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/919486/Tilemap.gif


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri 31 Dec, 2004 3:50 pm 
Offline
Calc Wizard
User avatar

Joined: Fri 17 Dec, 2004 10:22 pm
Posts: 745
Location: Wandering around in the Jungle...
Wow Cyan...those are some cool tiles! Damn...there's a lot of um too! :)

_________________
The Revolution is here...


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB ® Forum Software © phpBB Group | DVGFX2 by: Matt