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Around 5 cm's in Soest (between Amersfoort and Hilversum), I wouldn't say that's worth a national weather alert - maybe a few regional ones in the east..
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Hint:
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The weather alert was bullshit, we used to have worse than this kind of snow for weeks years ago. And years before that nobody even got free from school or outside sports practise.

We just sprayed the roads and carried on, now we halt half the trains and warn everybody to stay indoors for a couple of inches of snow.
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I found that surprising (as mentioned on the BBC website) that schools were closed. I thought throwing in the towel when the weather turned less clement was a uniquely US phenomenon, though we're evidently a nation of slackers too now. ;)
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Europe is Americanizing at a steady pace in every aspect of it's societies. If Americanizing is considered a proper word in English.
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Yep. I'm even afraid we're going to give up our `gedoogbeleid` within the next 5 years as I see more and more anti-drugs statements made by politicians. Things like removing the legal differences between soft- and hard-drugs, socially pushing more and more youths into rehab clinics (for marihuana "addiction", wtf?) and implementing more and more bullshit views under the guise of having a "Christian" party who wouldn't have the slightest idea about what religion even is let alone about the seperation between church and state.

It's been the only thing I can say I'm proud of in this pos country, some tolerance.

Multicultural my ass.
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I totally agree, though I think we've left tolerance behind several years ago.

We'll have censorship on the Internet in the Netherlands rather soon too...
In het concept-regeerakkoord, dat maandag gedeeltelijk uitlekte, is opgenomen dat internetproviders verplicht kunnen worden 'radicaliserende boodschappen' te blokkeren.

The draft government plans, that partially leaked out last monday, state that it should be possible to force internet providers to block "radicalist content".
Damned Christians and their hunger for influence. No offense, but religion should have nothing to do with politics.

Plus:
http://www.isoc.nl/info/pers/2007-verkr ... ternet.htm

(I'm sorry it's in Dutch folks, not trying to exclude you, I just don't have any English sources)

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Oh yeah, a director of a couple of crappy Dutch movies is stabbed to death by a radical muslim freak and all our government can do is scream terrorism for years and limit our freedoms according to whatever supposedly gets the most votes from a scared bunch of misguided fools we call the public. Or maybe it's a way to drive terrorists out of business, as they can't really terrorize us when we're already endlessly terrorizing ourselves.

Some movie director with a useless opinion getting stabbed to death is our 9/11. But they couldn't care less about a radically different political direction emerging in a single gay bald man who expressed more sympathetic statements in a single 1 hour interview with someone who wasn't out to backstab him over whatever words some people might not agree with than anything anybody in the goverment could ever imagine in their lives. Yet, nothing happens when a man who easily could've become prime minister gets shot in a large public gathering by someone with ties to the left-wing government parties other than the murderer getting 11 years of jailtime for it.

And we shouldn't even limit freedom of speech if the whole country was getting bombed to pieces every day. We should take the energy we're putting in trying to control everybody and point it to the actual problem.
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Of course nobody cared about an "annoying" politician getting shot by some nature freak, good riddens and thank god it wasn't a muslim... We have a country full of hypocrites.

Damned, we so much think alike, you and I... That's scary considering that we've had quite a few arguments not so long ago :)

Anyway, I still prefer the Netherlands over pretty much any other civilized country, but I'm not sure for how much longer.
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Yeah NL is still nice to live in.

At least we finally have a political party for the just treatment of animals and humans (animals).

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Only good thing currently in government.
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Uhm... yeah right. Go Animals....... we don't have other problems right now, so we can start with animals :no:
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LOL :mrgreen:
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kv83 wrote:Uhm... yeah right. Go Animals....... we don't have other problems right now, so we can start with animals :no:
I'm suprised you don't seem to like an animal rights party getting 2 seats in the parlement, because you sound like a sheep.

Thinking a little bit about our actions aimed at important problems and their consequences on other living beings can not possibly be a bad thing. This is not about directing all attention away from fixing any problems other than those in the bioindustry, it's about a slight bit (2/150th to be exact) of attention for how we treat life. I'm sorry, but if you don't even want to take that into consideration when you're "fixing" our society then you don't deserve the slightest bit of freedom we have in it.
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Yeah, exactly what I'm saying, so I'm going to start my own Poltical "Plants" Party! They have feelings too, you know! We should spend lots of money to help them. And if I'm finally getting some guys to vote for me (who apparently vote for me because they have no other party to vote for), I've done my part and can cash in for the rest of my life. Way to go! It doesn't matter that we have countless organizations who already do things for animals.

Insulting people doesn't make it less stupid btw :)
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Yeah, exactly what I'm saying, so I'm going to start my own Poltical "Plants" Party! They have feelings too, you know!
Well, why not? Plenty of rare plant-, tree-, and fungi species that somehow contribute to the biodiversity on this globe (and have things to offer in fields of science such as medicine) that should be preserved instead of asphalted over, for example.
We should spend lots of money to help them.
Well, why not? Plantlife is more beneficial to us than shooting eachother in some godforsaken desert, which is costing even our silly little country lots of money.
And if I'm finally getting some guys to vote for me (who apparently vote for me because they have no other party to vote for)
Err doesn't that say something about the rest of the political parties' standings? Like, I don't know, being total crap? Meaning I was right in saying this little party is the best thing in government. Also hottest.
I've done my part and can cash in for the rest of my life. Way to go!
Hey good for you, at least you didn't "earn" it by not even being able to keep a government together for it's 4 year period. Or "earned" it by giving yourself raises for owning some big-ass company. Or by not even showing up for governmental meetings.
It doesn't matter that we have countless organizations who already do things for animals.
Yes it does, but they're not in politics meaning they have a completely different level of influence. Actually, I'll let you guess what kind of organisations are being supported by the party in question.
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They sure are the hottest party, but I would agree that there are more important things to take into consideration when casting a vote than the wellbeing of animals. Like civil liberties. Like our social security system. Like preserving our identity instead of blindly following the American (or European, for that matter) lead. And I agree that the animal party has some good standpoints on those subjects, but they don't have enough power to do something about them, nor will they ever get it. So my vote goes to one of the larger left-winged parties.
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